Cyclist Stay back poster on lorries, vans and buses. Cyclist Version for Lorries.

Hello Fellow Cyclist,

 

Have you noticed those yellow posters on the back of buses 

and larger vehicles? the loud yellow 'Cyclist Stay back' ones, 

which i think is not entirely a bad idea,  i just really think 

the message should lie the other way. I think its the buses, 

vans and larger vehicles that have the responsibility to take 

care of the smaller/more vulnerable road users so i have made 

this as a direct response.

 

The image is printed on to heat transfer paper and can be ironed 

on to nearly any garment/bag. The image is available in A4 or A5, 

prices being £5 for the A5 and £8 for the A4. For information 

please email me at inpassion.prints@gmail.com

 

I am also happy to help with any designs you may have so please feel free to email me.

Replies

  • By SimonS at 2:58pm 23 November 2013
What a splendid idea!

Love it! I find those "Cyclists stay back" stickers really irritating - they put all the responsibility on the cyclists and none on the vehicles that kill.

The stickers don't work. Cyclists still go up the inside of large vehicles at junctions. Cyclists still go up the inside of indicating vehicles at junctions. Riders have a responsibility to themselves and their loved ones to not put themselves in positions that are well-known to be dangerous.

 

Drivers also have a responsibility to more vulnerable road-users, and I'd like to see strict liability and stronger enforcement of road legislation and punishment of those who drive dangerously.

  • By Shannon at 9:00pm 24 November 2013

Nice graphics. I once saw a tshirt with the same font and colour as the Long Vehicle warning plate, it had been changed to Soft Vehicle. 

  • By DuncanH at 10:04am 25 November 2013

Isn't this an advertisement?

Is that a Scania? Can i choose the make / model of truck? ;-) How about a "My Other Bike is..Under a Truck". I did once have a t-shirt made with an altered bendy-bus warning sign about them being 18m long!

"Warning! This Bus is 1.8m long

 an I don't wannit any shorter!"

But then they went and discontinued bendy buses!(

  • By dickyr at 7:56am 3 December 2013
I'm new to these threads but there seems to be a common theme. Sensitivity! Whether it is the police stopping cyclists to speak about lights, red lights, high viz clothes or helmets. Or lorries with stickers on. Or advanced stop lines. A few contributors venture arguments such as you see here about "putting all the responsibility on cyclists". With helmets you see "it won't stop your head being crushed by a lorry". With lights and high viz it's "drivers should be more aware - it's their responsibility". With police stopping cyclists in an attempt to reduce fatalities it's "they're blaming the victims. Why don't they spend their time stopping drivers on phones or vehicles crossing ASLs". It's tedious, tedious, tedious. Traffic and enforcement are complex and chaotic systems. A mixture of solutions and the sharing of responsibility is the way forward, not the playground attitudes of making out we cyclists are wronged not wronging. In this case, what is the problem with a lorry having a sticker on the back if it makes just one cyclist think twice? It's not the whole answer but then again, nothing is.

Sensitivity! 6 London cyclists killed in the space of 2 weeks – that’s just passed you by?!? They were sensitive to motorists killing them. Their families are sensitive to having lost loved ones. And everyone who can get a microphone wants to blame the cyclists. Yeah, we’re a little sensitive, and with good reason!

 

 

And what’s wrong with telling drivers of killing machines to take some responsibility themselves? Geez.

  • By Dagda at 2:25pm 12 December 2013

The problem with the stickers is that they implicitly transfer responsibility from motorised vehicle to cyclist. This is done because the operator cannot see around the vehicle properly. Do you think that is acceptable? Or see why it might annoy cyclists?

 

 

  • By Dave H at 9:48am 4 June 2014

Could you produce something completely universal as a safety message for every road user?

"The ONLY CONTACT I want with you is EYE CONTACT"

or 

"The ONLY CONTACT I want with another road user is EYE CONTACT"

This can be used on cyclists' tabards, stickers on the back, side, AND front of any vehicle (looking back through the windscreen at the driver is perhaps a far more relevant detail for a slower moving cyclist, and certainly used by pedestrians when crossing the road). Looking back can also negotiate with bus drivers especially about how you both behave approaching a bus stop.*

Looking back was the key safety measure identified by the 5000 cyclist OxCam study, which also noted the women identified this as a significant issue with which they had a problem. This was statistically affirmed by also reviewing the incidents recorded, where women featured to a greater extent in incidents that involved poor awareness of following traffic. It may also explain why women feature more in HGV crashes where the cyclist is overhauled and either driven over or crushed by the driver turning left. I find that I regularly use a rearward glare, and sometimes even a clear hand signal directed at the driver of a truck or bus coming up behind me. The key safety message that the OxCam Survey proposed was "Perfect the rearward glance"     

*It is very helpful for a bus driver in a bus lane or approaching a bus stop, if a cyclist moving more slowly in front, pulls over to the right, to let the bus driver pass without having to weave out to pass the bike. It also means that you are in control of when you pull back to the left after the bus has gone past or stopped, and eliminates the hazard of being cut-up by the bus driver moving back to the left too early.  You are also more visible to any driver in a vehicle following the bus, whose attention may well be directed to the right hand side of the bus to decide when to pass it. 


This post was edited by Dave H at 9:57am 4 June 2014.

  • By anbh66 at 8:54am 5 June 2014

The cycling proficiency test should be mandatory every 5 years and should teach awareness of road position and its influence on drivers' decision-making.

The driving test should be mandatory every 5 years and should teach awareness of cyclists and their decision-making process.

Central London should go vehicle-free. To transport goods, put them on 5-man delivery rickshaws. Somebody needs to invent that though. I think a few London bike shops could get together to make a prototype.

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