Is unreasonable to expect commuting cyclists to use mudguards?
Not at all, its easy enough to fit them when the weather gets bad. Just one more difference between a considerate and an inconsiderate cyclist who insists in covering the cyclist behind them with whatevers on the road.
Why are you asking ? If we all tell you its ok are you going to go and harangue some poor guy or girl who is cycling without them ?
I have mud guards as I dont want to change my cloths when I get to work but if others dont just say back from them or over take them. Life is not that hard.
i have no intention of hranguing anyone, just thought i'd get others opinions and maybe initiate a discussion. agree that life is not that hard,
Unreasonable? Inconciderate? Insists?. Unlike the world of Twitter, or the letters pages of the Daily Mail, cycling sites are generally layed back and err on the side of solidarity. Cheers for the reminder though. Fair play Showes for being reasonable. I'm no novice on the road, but I'm fairly new (only my third post on LCC). I hope this isn't a sign of how things are around here. I use my own name, as it keeps me from being impolite.
If there's a need for mudguards it suggests the roads are wet. If the roads are wet why are you riding so close to the stranger in front that their use of mudguards might affect you? Is it not 'unreasonable' and 'inconsiderate' to leave such a small gap that you would be unable to stop if they do, potentially causing injury to them?
Although I always use mudguards, I have to agree as a couple of other posters have suggested that if it is wet, it is probably more inconsiderate to be riding close enough to feel the effects than it is for the rider in front to not utilise mudguards.
Mudguards on the commuter as I don't want a wet arse.
On the carbon bike NO mudguards whatsoever.
If you get sprayed then your fault for wheel sucking im afraid. Either drop back like most cyclists would or overtake.
p.s not all bike frames are that easy to install guards
It was I think a valid question and the responses seem clear i.e. it is unreasonable, it can be useful to gauge the consensus. I have been commuting by bike in London since 1983 and it seems to me that back then more people used mudgaurds than seems to be the case now. although I have no ststistics to back this up, as per Shannon I am new to this and also use my own name. Marco you shouldn't assume that I am cycling with a such a small gap that I am unable to stop as this is not the case.
It's completely up to an individual whether they use mudguards or not. I do use a rear mudguard but it is entirely to safe my own backside from getting soaked.
If you are being sprayed by a back wheel you are too close to stop safely on a wet road if the rider in front stops unexpectedly.
Most cycle clubs have a rule that in winter ALL riders on a club ride have suitable mud-guards fitted. This is because group riding by its very nature means that riders are in close formation. However, all the riders are riding with a single mind/purpose. Everyone in the group knows each other, what they are going to do and how they will react to a given situation.
Commuters on the other hand have no such obligations and it is their choice to fit or not fit mud-guards. The purpose of mud-guards is to protect the rider of the bike to which the mud-guards have been fitted.
Other commuters are strangers and therefore unpredictable. They should be treated as a hazard.
If you give other commuters a safety gap then you should be unaffected by their spray (or their actions).
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